DSP: Mental layer or Manonmaya Kosha Meditation🔗

Now we will work on the same truth again at a deeper level. See, every time it is a complaint from many people even if it is the truth. Too many things are taught and people don't remember to practice. Or people don't make everything into an experience.

So I decided that this time instead of putting out so much information I will just give one truth. I shall give you just one truth that you will not be able to forget even in your dreams. How many of you remembered that the moment you got up from the bed that you are unclutched? Oh God!

This one truth can heal you so much, mentally and physically. This one truth can bring so much of inner healing, this one truth can expand you so much to accommodate others in your personality or in your space, this one truth can expand you so much on the spiritual level. I can say this one truth can be called as a panacea, the medicine for everything. This heals all problems, whether physical problem or mental problem like addiction, guilt, depression, loneliness, boredom and all such major issues that are related to your mind and problems of your mind. This one truth is enough.

The important thing of this one truth is that you don't need to practice anything. All you need to do is understand clearly and have a strong understanding. If you can answer all the questions which are raised by your mind, that is enough, nothing else needs to be done. There is nothing to be practiced, all you need to do is just remember; just remember to come back to the original space, the space of being unclutched. Not only at the physical and mental level but also the spiritual level.

This truth straight away liberates you. This is the path and the goal. Usually path and goal are separate. Now here the path and the goal are one and the same. The moment you understand this you are free. Now no mind game can happen in you. Your mind can't play any games with you. The moment you understand this truth you are free. Your mind can't play any more games with you.

I tell you this, once you understand this truth, you can't be exploited by any priest or anybody. Now I am putting all these so called religious people out of business. Because after you understand this what will you do? You don't need any technique. You don't need any thing else. You won't go for any meditation program. And in the West, this will put of business people who teach the self development course and all these things. You won't go for any self development course.

See, I am putting the people who are selling all these ideas, whether religious or self development courses, all out of business. Now you won't bother about any of these things because you now know your intrinsic nature of your being. You know the core nature of your being and you don't need any of these things. First thing you know that none of these things help you. Second thing you know that whatever help you can have is only from this truth. Nothing else can happen. Only one way you can be helped; that is this truth. So naturally, once you understand this truth, you won't even do meditation.

Actually I am trying to even remove meditation from your life, remove all kinds of conditionings from your life, all kinds of rules and regulations from your life, giving you a totally different center from where you can act; not only act, where you can be. Now either you act or you be. I'm giving you a totally different centre from where you can act and be.

You can be completely settled into your being and at the same time you can be alive and involved with your life. This can transform the very identity which you are carrying. This is the highest vedantic truth. The difficulty with this thing is usually that you don't receive the truth so easily. Usually it takes a long time. They make you sit at least 10 years before they start telling you these basic things of Vedanta.

Especially, these traditional vedantis, oh god! They insist on teaching you so much of theories and concepts and words, this that, so many things. By the time you finish learning you will be filled with so many words; automatically you start preaching the same thing. Because after learning you find that nothing has happened to you, and you can't accept that nothing has happened to you. So, you will have to somehow justify why you spent so much of time in that line.

So what is the only way out? It is to teach others. Whatever time I invested in that field has to be useful for me. That is the way we end up here. This truth is so clear. It is straight. The essence of this is what we call brahma jnana. Making and giving this truth and helping the other person to experience this truth, is what I call brahma jnana; the ultimate initiation or ultimate teaching.

With this teaching all your Vedanta will fall in place. All your knowledge will fall in place. Without this key technique, without this key truth, whatever you read will be only words. With this one truth now everything will fall in place. You feel everything is reality. Now whatever you read, everything will become experience. There is no need to do something separately. Just this one single understanding is enough.

By your very nature you are unclutched. Your thoughts are completely unconnected, independent and illogical. Not only that, constantly your thoughts are being replaced; you are constantly renouncing. There is no need for you to separately practice renunciation. By your very nature you are renouncing. Renunciation is your very nature. Unless you renounce, you can't be alive. Even if you tried to hold on to something you can't hold on.

See for example, if you try you can't hold on even to some joyful memory, some blissful thing, you cannot; you will be renouncing it by your very nature. If you try to push something that you want to renounce, just because you are pushing you will create more problems. If you just keep quiet automatically you will forget about it.

People who are addicted to something may ask, 'How can I forget about it?' Don't bother, simply relax; forget about dropping that habit, simply that habit will drop. Don't force yourself too much to get rid of addiction. You may think, what is this Swamiji, what are you teaching? With all my effort I'm not able to forget. How do you say that I will forget if you don’t put effort? I say you will forget if you don’t put effort because by putting your effort you are trying to elongate that shaft. Constantly you teach yourself that you are addicted, you are addicted and you are addicted.

I tell you, first thing, do not bother about renouncing something because by your very nature you renounce. When you try to renounce something forcibly you create more and more connection, more and more lengthy shaft about that product, about that habit, about that thing. You create a chain, a bigger link.

What I am saying may look impractical logically but this is the way mind works. Try your best to drop something, some addiction, you can never be successful. Even if you drop you may be dropping out of some fear or greed, which is a much bigger addiction. If you drop smoking out of some fear or greed, you are not doing anything good to your consciousness; good to your inner space. You are only damaging yourself more.

You might have dropped smoking, but that fear for which you have dropped or that greed for which you dropped will be added on to your inner space. At least with smoking you will destroy only this body; with fear or greed you will destroy your whole being, lives after lives. In the next body too you will be carrying this fear and greed.

Smoking habit you may not carry over to the next body but these samskara of fear and greed you will be carrying with you to the next body. So let you be very clear, even if the addiction is dropped with this truth, you will be liberated. Other that this truth, whatever way you may drop this addiction, you will only damage your inner space. You may be successful or may fail in dropping but you will damage your inner space. You will damage yourself surely. With this one truth, You will experience totally a different being. You will totally experience a different identity.

Start allowing this truth to sink in you. Sit with this truth again and again, whenever you find time. Just sit, now I will drive these things, this truth into your head so much, even when you are sitting and doing something, automatically this truth will be there in your mind. You can’t do anything else except remembering that you are unclutched. You are unconnected.

One more thing, even after having the knowledge that you are unclutched you will be able to see and live with the world as you are living now. You don’t have to give up and leave everything. One more thing, your fear about giving up is not even directly related to giving up. It is something like you don’t feel as if you lived your life fully; that is why you are afraid to give up. All your fear about giving up is not even about giving up.

At some point all of you know you have to leave and go away, nothing can be done. There is no u-haul service for another planet. Let you be very clear, no u-haul service available. You can’t carry anything with you. You cant put a hook and drag whatever you want. Nothing can be done. Let you be very clear. So you know at some point or another, you have to leave. It is not even fear of leaving things, fear of dropping, fear of giving up. It is fear that you have not lived.

When you are unclutched, you will start living, you will start intensely really living. Anyway when you allow this truth to work on you, you will understand how the whole quality of your life has transformed.

Now let us do another simple experiment. Read whatever you wrote yesterday, and how irrelevant it feels now, you can see. Try to read with this one understanding that you are unclutched. Yesterday when you wrote how heavy it was; how all what was going on in your mind? And now what is happening in your mind, just see.

Than I’ll try to respond to some more questions or experiences. If you work just with the specimen you have, that itself will give you a lot more insights. In this DSP I’m not interested in giving you too many techniques; just to constantly keep you seduced or like how these doctors give you sedatives.

Actually, I read all these American slang notebooks to get some jokes. I’ve learned a lot of American slang words, but I am very careful to use them. The other day, I asked Gopal the meaning of some American slang word. He was shocked; he asked, ‘from where did you learn this word? Never ever say this word to anybody, never ever tell this word to anybody, it is really offensive’.

A small story:

One priest was giving his sermon Sunday morning.

He was saying, ‘Oh society has become so bad, the other day I got a DVD from blockbuster, it was full of nonsense, all sorts of perversions , too many nonsensical things, I never thought the society has gone so bad. I don’t know what to do?’

A guy in the congregation asked: ‘Sir, where did you get that DVD from?

I read all these joke books to get you all these small stories. There all the American slang is there.

Even if you think you understood about you being unclutched, do no think continuously you have understood. Even that thought can become even one more shaft. The understanding that you had yesterday about being unclutched, the understanding that you had today morning, and the understanding that you are having now are not the same. Be very clear, so do not think you understood.

The more you are unclutched even from that, from being unclutched, you will go into the deeper and deeper levels of experience. This one truth can straight away give you enlightenment, nothing more is necessary. So it’s like this; this is the space where your consciousness on one side, here is your identity on the other side and between these two only are all your engrams. The moment you start unclutching from your identity you are just sucked towards the source, towards the very core of your being. You will simply drop to your inner space or enlightenment.

That's why I said that just this one thing, just like something dropping, just like that you can just fall into your enlightenment, nothing can stop you. With this truth the important thing is you must sit and continuously question this and get rid of all the doubts. That's why practically these 2 days I am sitting with you. That's why they call it Upanishad, which means sitting with the master. Sitting, sitting, sitting, and dropping from all the doubts.

I've never spent so much time in any meditation program continuously. Yesterday if you see the number of hours, I don't spend this many hours in the first two levels of LBP. Moreover when I make you close your eyes, I go away sometimes. I'm telling you the truth. After I tell you to tie the headbands I go to my room and come back after half an hour, and tell you please open your eyes. Here I can't do that also.

Here I am trying to give you that inner space without closing your eyes, because you can live the whole day with closing your eyes. You are going to live with open eyes only. Unless you experience the consciousness with open eyes, it's not going to help you. So I am trying to give you that space of thoughtless awareness or dhyana, with open eyes.

Now let's enter into the manonmaya kosha, little deeper level, the next level. Now you will straight away unclutch form the words. You will neither bother about the body nor bother about prana. You will straight away work on the thoughts. Please sit straight, close your eyes.

Just be unclutched. If thoughts come, let them come, if they drop let them drop. Don't even bother about unclutching; if it gets clutched let it get clutched. If it gets unclutched, let it get unclutched. Don't even bother about getting clutched or getting unclutched. Just sit, just be. Don't even bother to unclutch yourself, if it is getting clutched let it get clutched, if it gets unclutched let it be unclutched.

Q: I've always been pondering where are thoughts created , where they get dissolved and where is the working of the mind and what we call the no mind state. If I do not know the workings of the mind and where the thoughts go, it will be difficult for me to unclutch , I will be walking on thin ice.

A: One thing, from where thoughts come, where they stay and where they disappear, that space is what I call as of now as mind. When you are enlightened you will understand that you are not only that space. As of now if you have 5 acre land all the 5 acres is mind. Suddenly you will realize you have 5000 acre land and only 5 acres is mind. That’s what enlightenment is; you will have expansion. Only the 5 acres you have and all the 5 acres is crowded with thoughts means you will be suffocated as you are now. When you expand to 5000 acres and only the 5 acres is occupied you won’t feel suffocated, nothing else.

Q: I attended the life bliss program and there we were told to do the heart chakra meditation everyday and the third eye chakra we were told to do often.

A: If you have a particular problem and you want to do that particular meditation you are free ma. Now, if you understand this one truth, do you really feel that your whole being is vibrating with this truth? Are you able to understand what I am saying about being unclutched? If you feel you are completely filled with this truth, that’s enough. Remember and just sit being unclutched. That’s enough. If you are not able to trust this truth, still you have some doubt, go through the meditation. If you are able to connect with this truth you don’t need meditation.

Q: Yesterday I was shy to ask questions. Today I am totally unclutched and I feel like a new man. Only problem now is I have a thousand questions.

A: Be unclutched from this also, the questions will disappear.

Q: Are you removing morning and evening meditations for ananda gandha healers?

A: As long as you have your identity, try to do. If you really feel unclutched at that moment and you are not able to do meditation, then don’t do. That’s all. See if you feel unclutched, you won’t be able to do meditation. Then don’t do. If you are not having that experience of being unclutched, then do meditation. At least that will unclutch you.

Q: What about non-violence, if in the Gita, Krishna was involved in war and violence?

A : You see whatever we understand by the word non violence, all those things are too small. And the logic of the universe is totally different.

Our idea about peace, non violence, compassion, all these things are too small compared to the idea of existence. It’s like a balancing. So, we can not say what Krishna did was violent, what Krishna did is not peaceful. One more thing, we don’t listen to the divine all the time. So sometimes the divine has to do a little bit of balancing process. See, constantly we are disturbing the nature, so naturally what will happen? Nature has to manage itself, balance itself. What you think as natural calamities will then start happening. So these are all just universal balancing. That’s what I can say.

Q: This morning when I woke up I did not wish my husband good morning, instead I said be unclutched and he said, I already am. I think we can start every morning like that and also remind each other during the day.

A: Yes, yes, you can constantly remind others to be unclutched so that they won’t fire you. Instead of saying hi how are you instead we can say hi, be unclutched.

Q: During the meditation yesterday while laying face down, I felt a connection to mother earth.

A: Actually you will feel connected to the very nature itself.

Q: Actually at first I felt a rapid heat beat pulsing from the navel and then it slowly calmed down. Then when we were sitting quiet....

A: Actually when you lie down in that pose you will be able to trust the nature and relax from the body. That’s why I told you to lie on your stomach.

Q: After that I felt a quietness or void in the navel area, and I woke up with a slight stomach ache and felt better almost immediately.

A: You may not have felt the pain; you would have named it as a pain. It will have been something else.

Q: My habit is a negative thought comes and I replace it with a positive thought…

A: How long have you been doing this, tell me? Again the positive thought will be replaced with a negative thought. So it is just a cycle of birth and death, do not try to replace thoughts. Just unclutch, that is the best way.

Q: Is a positive affirmation creating a shaft?

A: Yes. This think positive and all these positive teachings all these things, be very clear, it will create not only more and more difficulty and side effects for you. I have seen people who have started practicing this creative visualization, positive thinking and all these things. You end up in a big mess. Consciously they damage themselves irrevocably. Please be very clear, they damage themselves too much. This creative visualization and positive affirmations, all these disturb too much. Just unclutch. You are already ultimate positive.

Q: With this current unclutched state, can we just say to self be neutral?

A: You don't have to be neutral; whatever has to be done will be done by itself. Trust that you have intelligence to function without thinking. You are always afraid; you don't have the trust to function without intelligence. That is why you are constantly thinking and never function at all. You are afraid you will do some mistakes and finally commit big blunders. That is what is going on now, with your life. Now trust yourself you can live without thinking.

Q:I have many shafts , I worry about others and when I tell myself I should not do this I feel guilty about not worrying. What should I do?

A: I think God has to take special incarnation. You see your guilt is also shaft. Worrying for others is also shaft. When you understand that you are connecting and not creating, why don't you relax from it, forget about it; don't bother.

Q: My gratitude to you for your teaching and how to heal the foot pain I've had for many years.

A; That is ok, but not only the foot pain, try to heal your very being itself.

Q: I'm aware that each moment I'm choosing to be unclutched as opposed to run with the thought of the moment, it is not opposed to choosing to run with the thought of the moment.

Be very clear, sometime even when you are unclutched, you may run with the thought. It is not against.

Q: Can I say my strongest desire is to be unclutched, therefore I am choosing not to attach to the thought of the moment. Or by stating this is my strongest desire does this desire become a shaft?

A: Naturally this desire will become a shaft, as of now unclutch. Don't even have the desire to unclutch. This itself will constantly help you to unclutch yourself. If you are unclutched, be unclutched. If you are clutched, be clutched, that's all. You will be liberated even from being unclutched.

Q: When I go inside into the gap, the space between breaths, my thoughts I start getting a feeling or thought that I am a superior being. Is this a piece of my interior identity. How do I surrender the inside identity?

A: That feeling will automatically go away. Sometimes these yogic powers you sometimes get, but it will automatically go away don't worry.

Q: How is a problem with no known solution dealt with without creating a new shaft? Is it best to wait for a solution to present itself?

A: If you just wait the solution will automatically present itself. By clutching do you think you will be able to solve the problem? You can't.

Q: Are these one and the same? Unclutched, total surrender, thy will, accepting God's will?

A: Yes, all these are one and the same.

Q: How do we get rid of negative thoughts?

A: Just be unclutched.

Q: There is more energy in me since yesterday. I feel more capable of handling daily life without creating shafts. Tell us how to deal with longing and craving for the divine? Is that longing creating a shaft? If yes, how to deal with this shaft?

A: Understand this is one more shaft and it will disappear. Nothing else needs to be done.

Q: I don't need to keep in memory that I should not do certain things?

A; If you are unclutched you will have the right thing in memory. Files will be completely stored. If you are clutched only your pains will be stored. Your joys will not be stored. Only your negative things will be stored. Positive things will not be stored.

Let you be very clear, if you want sharp memory, let you be unclutched. My sharp memory is from being unclothed only. Because, you see as of now, your hard disc is filled with high resolution pictures, means all the memory associated with emotion. Memory associated with emotion means your hard disc is filled with high resolution pictures. It will naturally crash. You will not be able to retrieve or handle. You will not be able to store too much. When you are unclutched, you will store only word documents. You can store lot more than before.

Q: What is the difference between thinker and thoughts?

A: Thinker actually doesn't exist. Thoughts sometimes exist.

Q: Spaced out, absent mindedness- is it unclutched?

A: No. Spaced out in the traditional sense doesn't mean unclutched. We can say spaced in-we can have our own word. Instead of spaced out, spaced in. Maybe that is unclutched.

Q: When I was a young child I was fortunate to live across from a forest on a small island surrounded by nature, I remember being in an unclutched state of pure joy. My parents and friends would ask me where I was or what I was thinking about? I would say “nothing” Their reaction made me think I must be dimwitted. I must be dumb if I was not constantly thinking. Thank you for showing me the way back home to bliss.

A: People who constantly think, only they are dumb ma. Be very clear.

Q: Lovely compassionate Swamiji, this morning I was having lots of thoughts, suddenly you dropped the bomb when you clapped your hands. Ananda Gandha felt an explosion. My whole body was a heart beat, and minimum thoughts, such a peace and strong surge of energy and heat. When I came from India in January, people asked me so are you enlightened? I just laughed because I don’t know what it means, or what to answer. I don’t know words I only have experiences. I don’t worry about anything. I think I know I love you and trust you so much. My life motto now is, if God wants me to fly he will personally book my ticket.

A: Not only that he will come and put it in your wallet. Destination anywhere; Varanasi or enlightenment.

Q: You are constantly talking about the ultimate truth or ultimate initiation. You claim this is the answer to all problems including depression , irritation, etc.

A: I’m not claiming it, try to practice and you will understand the truth. I’m not claiming anything. I’m just stating a fact.

Q: If this is that good, why is this truth not taught in Universities, where there are a lot of intelligent people. Any comment?

A: I don’t think that in universities there are a lot of intelligent people. If there are a lot of intelligent people, let them learn, I have no problem. Anyhow, I am making all these CD’s available. If they want, I have no problem. I can send some teachers and teach them.

Q: Since you are going to initiate healers in the unclutched state, what is the need of holding on to malas and other items?

A: It may not have any meaning. I just wanted my people to do it. If that much they feel connected to me, let them have healer’ initiation. Because it is purely a gift from me, let them do it.

Q: During the meditation, I felt as thought I was a new person every moment. This was every breath. If I was getting clutched to my thoughts I realized that after suddenly realizing I was unclutched, a relief and energized feeling was there. I suddenly felt that during the meditation that time was also a shaft. A: Yes, you are really getting into meditation. Time is also a shaft. Your concept about time is also a shaft. When you touch that zone you are really entering into unclutched state.

When you really unclutch yourself you forget about the identity which is you and which is Brahman.

Q: Now you have said it is not your words, but your energy that we receive that is important. You also said that during Nithyanandam in India, you did not need to speak, you just sat in silence. In America we just place so much importance on words, it is hard for us to sit silent.

A: Because you are trained to speak, that is a big problem.

Q: The most powerful parts of the last two days, and the parts that I was the most unclutched is when we sat in silence, it is so much harder to be unclutched when words are flying around the room. What to do?

A; That is right. Actually in silence you can be completely unclutched. When you are listening also why do you feel disturbed? Your disturbance is also one more shaft. Why don't you unclutch now also? You can do. When you can unclutch in the silence, you can unclutch when you are listening to me also.

Q: After hearing about being unclutched and unconnected the mind is rejecting all thoughts. There is an emptiness, no thoughts feel worth of giving any thought, why am I scared to stay in this emptiness?

A: Emptiness or your fear or being scared is only one more shaft, forget about it. Disconnect from that.

Q: I'm aware that I withhold or in some way resist being unclutched.

A: This again is just one more shaft. So be very clear, even that you are thinking that you are resisting unclutching is one more shaft. Forget about it. Understand it is one more shaft and don't create that's all.

Q: I know my mind constantly tells me that I am undeserving. Is there anything else to do other than having the awareness?

A: Just awareness is enough, nothing else is necessary.

Q: Please define the word unclutched and what is the nearest word in Sanskrit?

A: Maybe nirvikalpa, this is the closest, because in Shiva sutra I translated nirvikalpa, as unclutched.

Q: During meditation I became totally unclutched, all tightness left the body and I felt great expansion, I was floating thank you.

A: But be unclutched from this also ma. It’s beautiful, but be unclutched from this also.

Q: I had a shaft of swami that I met 10 years ago, swami that I met 1 year ago, swami that I met 1 day ago, I was about to be unclutched from swami shaft. Yesterday I saw a dancing swami, I have a new shaft consisting of dancing swami, am I having problem of getting unclutched now, can you give me some help?

A: No don’t worry, you will be unclutched. I’ll never make you clutched. So you will be unclutched.

Q: When you say unclutch from your identity and I do it, I feel falling into ananda gandha, then the question keeps rising if I am doing right.

A: If you fall in ananda gandha, you are doing it right. Nothing wrong.

Q: I can be unclutched or transformed in a second. I can be moved touched, but I fail to unclutch my wife at any cost. Can you help me?

A: If I knew the answer why do you think I became a Swami. You be unclutched that is enough, that will take care of everything.

Q: Are you saying we should stop thinking completely? Action without thought can be dangerous; what do you say?

A: I am not saying you should stop thinking completely. Be unclutched; whatever thoughts have to happen will happen automatically. Only in the initial level when you are unclutched you feel as if no thoughts are happening. Suddenly you will understand, even after unclutching, whenever it is necessary, it is getting clutched. Work is happening, whenever it is not necessary, it is unclutched. Your mind is being used as an instrument, not as a master. You will understand that. Even now, when you go out to eat, just be unclutched. Stand up in an unclutched way, go there, in an unclutched way, eat in an unclutched way. Understand what I am saying.

Q: While penning down the thoughts, I realized the speed of thoughts can not be captured by a pen; however it reduces. Understanding that we are unclutched is fine and easy to practice concept. A glimpse of enlightenment is possible. It may take a different time for each individual to achieve complete enlightenment. Through awareness of being unclutched, what decides this time for an individual?

A: See be very clear, if you are unclutched now, now itself you are enlightened. There is no separate time. There is no need that you should be unclutched for 10 years, only then you will become enlightened, nothing like that; just intensity matters.

Q: I experience love towards the body after annamaya kosha experience, looking at it with new eyes, like a child. The more I realize I am unclutched, the more sensitive I feel towards other people’s thoughts because my own thoughts disappear. This disturbs sometimes or other times causes feelings of great love , connection and compassion. The body feels pure and sensitive.

A: You are on the right track, go ahead. Just be unclutched.

Q; I experienced dropping many times, I feel I am stuck in a dark space. I desperately pray at that time, I feel stuck in ignorance.

A: Be very clear, dark space does not mean ignorance. That is the wrong idea taught to you.

Q: I can feel silence when I close my eyes and try to go inside. I don’t feel silence it is deep darkness, please help me.

A: Be very clear, darkness does not mean ignorance. Be unclutched from that also.

Q: How do you unclutch when you are angry?

A: When you are filled with anger, just be unclutched. The anger that you had ten years ago, the anger which you had 9 years ago, the anger which you had yesterday, they are all independent, individual incidents.

Q: Does being unclutched mean not getting involved in activity or conversation?

A: No, that is again clutching with laziness.

To have the ananda gandha experience it took nine years for me. Nine years of long tapas gave me the ananda gandha experience. And you people don’t even have to spend 9 days. Attend 2 days program, 3ʳᵈ day you are having ananda gandha experience. When I said this a disciple said, you were not fortunate to have guru like you Swamiji. And now these fellows are trying to reduce the time for that also!

Q: Please explain the difference between the thought between word or voice or image with no word, spontaneous image with feeling.

A: All these are thoughts. You have to unclutch from everything.

Q: America is perhaps the best place to teach unclutched state by a master like you because our house is not ours, bank owns, cooperation, mostly bank financed, car bank financed, jobs and wealth very temporary, life with modern inventions has extended chronological age, but death is inevitable. Feeling of temporariness is understood, so we are unclutched. Therefore being unclutched is the only way.

Q: Once unclutched thoughts living in the world come up and drop with awareness, what about being in the state of zero tps. In the inner world, is it possible that the unclutched state kills mind and goes beyond.

A: Yes the unclutched state will kill the mind and go beyond.

Q: As I went deep in my meditation I felt like something dropped in my heart area, when there it happened there was no thought for a second, I want to go back to that experience again and again.

A: Don’t create a shaft again, so even if it is beautiful experience, just be unclutched from that experience also.

Q: I am a little nervous to ask this and say this, thank you for your frankness about everything. I know the material world is real in terms of the 5 senses. I know the material world is real but I feel the psychological world is more real and powerful than the material world. This feeling makes me feel in control of myself but it also scares me. I also feel that inside me there is a big chamber, which is a psychological landscape , where erosion happens. Is this just a shaft or illusion I have created?

A; Whatever you are seeing is nothing but illusion which you created.

Q: What is the difference between manonmaya kosha and prana maya kosha meditation?

A: With prana you are working with prana energy, with manonmaya you are working with unclutching but with the level of thoughts. It is not similar. There is a difference, a little deeper you go.

Q: The first part of the program I was some what resistant, after seeing you dance last night it opened up a path of vibrational healing for me, I feel as though I go from being clutched to unclutched which to me means bliss. Is it only through enlightenment that one feels unclutched all the time?

A: Be very clear, if you are unclutched that’s enough; don’t bother about enlightenment at all.

Q: I have felt a deep peace during the session. I have never sat and watched things thoughts emotions and pain. In a way it was liberation from mantra, concentration on breath etc. Is this what you mean by unclutched? Not forcing anything and watching things happen like a movie?

A: Right. You are doing things properly.

Q: You have strongly explained the technique of disconnecting with unpleasant people, however the real issue is how to gradually disconnect and dissociate with the dearest and the people you love and depart peacefully.

A: Please be very clear, unclutching is not only with people who are unpleasant. You can easily unclutch yourself from people who are pleasant. Unclutching is the same technique only for the near and dear ones and your enemies. Just unclutch your self from the idea of enmity.

Q: Looking at a flower, person or even you makes a whole lot of difference to me after the introduction of the idea of being unclutched. I find myself disconnecting the whole shaft each time. I appreciate and enjoy the people and objects around me more, I am excited about this new me. Thank you Swamiji, it is a real beautiful experience.

Q: Swamiji, I love being in your physical presence I have noticed that although I love being in your physical presence I actually feel more connected to you when not near you. If I just look at your photo or even simply remember you, I feel so much gratitude and love but not as much when I am in your physical presence. Am I just creating a fantasy or superficial shaft. This troubles me a little, because most people want to be with you all the time, am I just not connected yet?

A: No, no, nothing like that, be very clear, sometimes in my absence also you may feel connected; that is not wrong. Feeling connected is enough. There is no need to worry about this. Don’t create one more shaft based on somebody’s explanation. If they feel connected to me in my physical presence that is nice, why should you feel the same thing? There is no need.