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Introduction

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I would like to start with a small story:

In a school, the boy scouts were supposed to tell their teacher the good deeds that they did for that day. Every day they did some good deeds and came and reported to their teacher. One day three friends stood up and said, 'Sir, today we helped an old lady cross the road.'

The teacher was not able to understand why three students were needed to help an old lady cross the street. He asked the boys, 'Why did you need three people to help an old lady cross the road?'

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They said, ‘Sir, it took all the three of us because she did not want to cross the road!’

Many times we extend help without thinking about the situation. When we try to help somebody without them seeking help, we create only more and more trouble for them. All our service done out of ego ends up only in creating trouble for others.

I request all of you to ask your doubts and questions. Unless you ask me, I won’t be able to help. By you being here, I assume that you are interested or you are asking for help for the ultimate experience of enlightenment. Unless you ask, whatever help I give will only be a problem or trouble for you!

The whole Ashtavakra Gita, this great book, was delivered to King Janaka, because Janaka asked for the truth. If you are here just to check out what Nithyananda has got to say, you are welcome. It is not a problem, you are welcome, but please be here completely.

Usually the mind is such that when you get up early in the morning and start brushing your teeth, the mind is already in the office, thinking or worrying about work. When you are actually in the office, your mind is already in the planned evening program, perhaps going to a cinema theatre or temple. When you are sitting in the theater or temple, your mind has already come back to the house.

One thing is sure: if you are here, your mind is not here. Your mind doesn’t stay in the same place where your body stays.

Our mind doesn’t rest inside our boundary. We all live like ghosts most of the time; our body is in one place, our mind is somewhere else. We don’t stay inside our boundary. If you really want this program to help you, if you really want to have some benefit from this program, I request you all to stay inside your boundaries while you are here. Please stay inside your boundary, inside your body. This whole program can do miracles in your being.

Today's subject is 'Enlightenment - It Is Possible!' Before entering into the subject, let me introduce the book, Ashtavakra Gita.

Man has created so many spiritual scriptures. But nothing can be compared to Ashtavakra Gita. This book is pure spiritual science. It is a technology created by the enlightened Master Ashtavakra, to reproduce the same experience which happened in him.

Understand: a scientist is a person who creates a formula to reproduce things of the outer world. For example, Newton observed something in the outer world and he started contemplating on that experience. He saw an apple falling from the tree and he started contemplating on that experience and created a formula. He created a theory through which people were able to understand gravity.

A scientist creates formulae to reproduce the understanding of the outer world. A spiritual master is a person who creates a formula to reproduce the experience of the inner world.

Ashtavakra is a spiritual scientist. He created a beautiful technology through which he was able to reproduce the same experience that happened in him.

So all you need is just a little sincerity. Just be inside your boundary. You will see that Ashtavakra's sutras, his collection of aphorisms, will work miracles on you. The scripture created by him, the technology created by him, can reproduce the same experience which happened in him in you also. All you need to do is, be inside your boundary; be inside your being.

About the boy sage

Ashtavakra

The whole story of Ashtavakra is beautiful. We don't know much about Ashtavakra, but there are just a few very significant incidents in his life. The story starts before his birth. It is supposed to be a puranic story, an epic story from Hindu mythology. It is very difficult to believe this as a fact.

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The story starts when Ashtavakra's
mother was carrying him in her womb.
Ashtavakra's father used to recite Vedic
mantras, the chants from the Vedic
scriptures. When the father was
chanting, the son used to listen to all
the mantras.

Suddenly, one day the son started
questioning the father from inside the
womb, 'What you are chanting are
pure words. It has no juice; it has no
experience. You are just an intellectual
pundit (learned person). Where is the
truth?'

The father was shocked. Ashtavakra
was asking, 'What happened to the
knowledge? What happened to the
wisdom? You are reciting only words.
They are just pure words. There is no
juice, there is no wisdom in them.' Of
course, the father as one can imagine,
was hurt.

A pundit's ego is always very strong
because his whole personality is built
on words. Actually we can easily hurt
a person who lives with mere words. A
pundit can be more easily hurt than
anybody else because his whole mind,
his whole life is centered on words.

We can easily cheat a pundit. Just give
him two or three compliments. Just
verbally tell him that he is a great
person. He can also easily be hurt by
telling him few words. His whole life is
centered on words and more words.

The moment the father was deeply
hurt, he cursed the son. He said, 'What!
Even before taking birth you dare to
question me! Who knows what else
you will do after taking birth!' The
father's curse resulted in Ashtavakra
taking birth with eight problems or
deformities in his body. At eight spots,
his body was crooked or curved.

I don’t know whether this story is a fact or if it really happened. But the story has significance. It has truth in it. Let us understand the truth behind the story. Usually the great masters who take birth on planet Earth take conscious births. Consciously they enter into the mother’s womb, enter into the body and start radiating their enlightenment.

The meaning of the story is that Ashtavakra was conscious even before birth. That is the truth. That is the meaning of the story. We cannot prove for sure whether he really spoke or whether he was really cursed. We do not know about this. But the truth which our masters are trying to explain through the story is that Ashtavakra was conscious of his being. He was conscious about his birth.

Now, the next story is another beautiful story:

Ashtavakra went to the palace of
Janaka, a great king. The moment
Ashtavakra entered Janaka’s palace,
everyone in the palace started laughing
because Ashtavakra looked ugly with
the eight curves in his body. All the
ministers and all the people including
Janaka started laughing. But
Ashtavakra did not get hurt.

If we allow ourselves to become hurt,
we are defeated. At any point, if we
are hurt, we are defeated. If we become
angry, we are defeated.

Ashtavakra was not hurt; he was not disturbed in any way. He was just completely relaxed. He said to Janaka, ‘Oh Janaka, I thought you were a great rishi (sage). I thought you were a great yogi (accomplished spiritual person). But you are neither a yogi nor do you have any yogis around you. You have only cobblers in your court. You have only shoemakers in your court.’

Ashtavakra boldly says, ‘You have only shoemakers in your court.’ You need

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to understand this statement; it is a
beautiful statement. Straightaway, a
twelve-year-old boy with physical
challenges is talking in a very bold
manner to the king of the country.

A twelve-year-old boy, Ashtavakra, has entered the court and the whole court is laughing. If we were in Ashtavakra's place, we would have immediately become angry. First, our ego would have been hurt; it would have been full of anger.

Next, either we would have shouted at the people who laughed or we would have left the place. But here is a person who can never be disrespected in the real sense. Nobody can disrespect a person who lives in spontaneity. Ashtavakra was a spontaneous person with great respect for himself.

Nobody can give us suffering unless we give our silent permission. Unless we allow or give our silent permission, nobody can disrespect us or hurt us.

Ashtavakra was such an integrated being, such a beautiful being, he did not allow others to hurt him or depress him. Straightaway he spoke with spontaneity, 'You have only shoemakers.' Be very clear, if we become angry, we cannot use the right words. But Ashtavakra used the right words: cobblers, shoemakers, etc. Janaka was shocked.

Ashtavakra explains, 'These people are
seeing only my skin, not my being.
Cobblers see only the skin, not the
reality. When the cobbler sees an
animal, he will think only about the
skin, not the being.'

When a tailor sees you, he will see only your dress. He will measure your being only based on the dress you are wearing. When a jeweler sees you, he will first see only the jewelry you are wearing. He will judge you based on the jewelry that you are wearing. He weighs you based on the gold that you are wearing.

People look at things only from their angles. They have their own ideas; they have their own imagination.

Ashtavakra says, 'You have only
cobblers around you - people who only
see the skin, not the being. My body
has eight curves, no doubt. But my
being is pure; my being is straight.'

You can't upset a man who lives in spontaneity. You can't stop him; you can't disrespect him.

There is a beautiful Zen story:

A well-known Zen master was giving
a beautiful discourse. A Buddhist
monk, a learned person who was well
read but had not experienced anything,
came to this discourse. The moment he
entered the hall, he started shouting.
'What Zen do you know? what
spirituality do you know? What are
you talking about?'

The Zen master was a young person.
The learned man kept on shouting,
'What are you talking about, what Zen
do you know? You can make only these
fools listen to what you say. You can't
make me listen to you. Can you make
me listen to what you say?'

The Master was very polite. He just
said, 'Sir can you please come closer? I
am not able to hear you properly.'

The monk came with all his arrogance.
Then the master said, 'Can you please
come this side?' The monk went to the
side.

Then the master turned his face, 'I am
still not able to hear you properly. Can
you move a little closer to the other
side please?' The monk moved a little
closer to the other side.

Then the master said, 'You seem to be a nice person. You have already listened

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to what I said three times. Now please
sit down and listen to the rest of the
discourse!’

The Zen master was spontaneous here!
A person who lives in spontaneity can
never be disrespected. We can never
catch him.

Ashtavakra was a person who lived in spontaneity. He lived completely in the present moment. He could neither be disrespected nor be deluded by the ego. He was not disturbed. He was just clear about his being. He said clearly, ‘Janaka, you have only cobblers around you.’ These words really touched Janaka. He understood these words.

Janaka was an intelligent king, a rare politician and a rare being. Being a king and having intelligence is something quite unique. Janaka was a king and an intelligent being. He understood the meaning of the words spoken by Ashtavakra.

He immediately came down from the throne, touched the feet of Ashtavakra and said, ‘Please forgive me. I understand what you say.’ Not only did he ask Ashtavakra to forgive him, but he also put forth one more statement. ‘Master, oh Lord...’ - he called Ashtavakra as Master. Janaka continued, ‘Oh Lord, just from your very words, I understood that what you spoke was from your own direct experience.’

Please understand, if you want to find out whether somebody is enlightened or just an intellectual pundit, observe him when he is hurt, or when he is disrespected. See how he behaves when he is disrespected. That will clearly show whether he has experienced the Truth or he is just an intellectual pundit.

We can have our titles or position or status. We can keep everything as long as our ego is not hurt. The moment our ego is hurt, the septic matter, the pus that is inside the infected wound will come out. If we have ego, the pus will simply come out. We will radiate anger, violence and vengeance.

How a person behaves and how he responds when he is hurt or when he is disrespected, will give you clarity as to whether he is really enlightened or whether he is just an intellectual pundit.

Here, Ashtavakra was completely disrespected. If you say a word and then laugh at someone, the other person will not be hurt so much. But if you just look at them and laugh, their very being is rejected. When you enter someone’s house, if you start to speak and if people start laughing and talking, then you can understand that they are not ready to hear what you have to say. However, if they start laughing the moment you enter, your very being is not being accepted.

Here, the very being of Ashtavakra was rejected and disrespected by the ministers of the court. But he was not offended; he was not disturbed. When you address the Masters you cannot use the word ‘was’; we can only use the word ‘is’. We can’t use the past tense ‘was’ for them. We can’t say ‘He was’; we can only say ‘He is’. When we mention the incidents of the past, we have to use the word ‘was’ to be grammatically correct. However, when we speak about the Masters, they ‘are’. They are always available; they are in the present.

You see, dead masters are not absent as you think they are. Moreover, the living masters are not present as you think they are. It is their energy, sheer presence that gives them the authority.

Ashtavakra was not hurt because he was so clear about his being and he was clearly expressing the reality. Janaka then said, ‘Just by your few words, I can understand that you are an enlightened being. Your words are from your very being. Please teach me. Please give me the wisdom that you have.’

Because Janaka asked for the truth, whatever Ashtavakra taught became a big help to him. It helped King Janaka to transform his life, to awaken his being, to achieve enlightenment.

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Unless you ask for this help, it cannot be given. If I give it to you without you asking, it will be just like the scout boys helping the old lady to cross the road. Three boys had to help one lady because she did not want to cross the road.

So please be very clear, I do not want to force the help on you. By you being here, I assume you are requesting this help. So I am entering into the sutra, the aphorism.

Janaka's Enquiries into the Truth

I am entering into the Ashtavakra Gita, assuming you need the wisdom and knowledge of Ashtavakra.

Let me give the slokas (verses) in English itself and then I will give the explanation.

Janaka asked:
How can knowledge be acquired?
And how can liberation be attained?
And how is renunciation possible?
Tell me this, oh Lord.

It is a beautiful question. Janaka's very being is a seeker. He might have laughed at Ashtravakra by mistake, but his very being is a seeker. He is a seeker of the truth, of reality. So he is asking:

How can knowledge be acquired? How is liberation attained?

How is renunciation possible? Tell me this oh Lord.

We need to understand the word 'liberation'.

Liberation means not being disturbed, polluted or touched by the inner or outer world goals. If we are not touched, polluted or corrupted by the outer world or inner world goals, we are liberated.

The Purposelessness of Life

The moment we understand the purposelessness of the whole Existence, we are liberated. I am using a big word here, 'purposelessness'.

Whatever we think as purpose binds our lives. Bondage is thinking that there is a purpose in our lives.

Immediately you may ask the next question, 'What do you mean Master? Is there no purpose in our lives?' Your life has meaning, but it has no purpose. Be very clear, purpose means that we are constantly worried about the goal. We are constantly bothered about what has to be achieved.

Be very clear: A goal is not the result of life. Life itself is the goal of life.

For example, in one month if we earn 1000 dollars, we measure our thirty days time as 1000 dollars. Mentally, by and by we start calculating the value of a month of our life as equal to 1000 dollars. Whenever we go to a store, we measure in our mind, 'Oh, to buy this dress, I have to work 15 days', 'To buy this jewelry, I have to work two months'.

We measure how much a month of our life is worth based on money. Be very clear, if someone says that he will give you 100 years' salary in a lump sum if you are willing to die today, would you accept it? No! But our mind has been conditioned so much, we measure our whole life based on the money which we earn each month.

The value of our life is calculated by our mind based on the money that we make. We need to understand one important thing, our life is not equal to the money or wealth which we are creating. Money or wealth is beautiful as long as we use it properly.

Be very clear, when we start measuring our whole life just based on money, when our

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whole life is centered only on money, we are seriously missing something in life. Something is seriously wrong with our thinking system.

When we start measuring our life based on the money that we make, we are living in a miserable condition. If we measure our whole life just based on the money we are making, we will be happy only on the first and the second day of the month when we receive our salary. The next twenty-eight days of the month we will be waiting just for those two paydays. We will be selling our twenty-eight days just to be happy on those two days. Please do not sell your life. Do not sell your life for some goals.

Two things: First, if we sell our life for some goal, we may not achieve anything at all and feel frustrated. Second, we may achieve our goal, but still feel depressed.

Be very clear, there is an important phrase that needs to be understood: 'depression of success' or the depression induced by success.

Depression which happens after failure is not real depression because there is always somebody who can give you hope that you will be successful the next time. If we face the depression out of failure, we always have some hope that somebody can inspire us to run again. But if we face the depression after success, nothing can be done. If you are an intelligent person, around the age of forty to forty-five, you have to face the depression of success. This is the scale to find out whether you are intelligent or not. If you are forty to forty-five and you still have not faced the depression of success, be very clear something is seriously wrong and missing in your life.

Around the age of forty to forty-five, you have to face the depression of success because around that age you would have achieved whatever you wanted to achieve. But suddenly you realize, 'I have achieved whatever I wanted to achieve, but I have not satisfied the original reason that created the very desire for that particular achievement.'

Achieving ‘what you want’ is different from satisfying ‘why you wanted it’.

You always wanted the house, car, relationships and bank balance for the sake of a happy life. But by the time you achieve all these things, you are conditioned to suffer. The concept of liberation means understanding the pure purposelessness of life.

In your young age when you are happy and blissful by nature, when you are bubbling and overflowing with energy, you postpone your joy. You always have some purpose, some goal in front of you.

When in college, you tell yourself, ‘After graduating from college, I think I will relax and then I will be happy.’ After finishing college you think, ‘Once I get a job and settle down, then I’ll be peaceful.’ Once you get the job, you push your happiness further, ‘I think after my marriage I’ll be happy and blissful.’ Once married, you think, ‘Once my kids are born, I’ll be happy.’ After the kids you think, ‘Once they all grow up and finish their education, I think I’ll be happy.’ By the time they are settled in their life, you are conditioned to suffer.

The stress of suffering or worrying becomes part of your being. You are completely conditioned to suffer. After that, if the worry or stress is taken away from you, you feel lonely. You feel you are missing something. You feel that you are not as you were earlier in life. That is the reason elderly people cannot sit with themselves. They get a hold of somebody and start talking to them.

It is not accidental that all around the world, all grandparents tell stories to their grandchildren. This is the tradition not only in Indian culture, but all around the world in all cultures. This tradition started not for the sake of children but for the sake of the grandparents because they feel lonely.

We can see this in our lives. There are elderly people who have been married, their children

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have also been married, and sometimes even their grandchildren may have been married. Despite this, they will continue to sit and read the matrimonial column in the newspaper with big glasses! They cannot sit with themselves. They cannot relax with themselves. Relaxing within ourselves is what I call liberation.

A person who can sit with himself without expecting anything from the outer world is liberated. He is jeevan mukta or liberated soul. Don't think of complicated meanings for the word jeevan mukta. If you have a big ideology about jeevan mukta, you will never think it is possible to attain.

Today's subject is 'Enlightenment - It is possible!' You will never understand that it is possible, if you associate it with complex ideologies. Understand, it is very simple. The actual definition is...

Jeevan mukta means, 'A person who can sit with himself, one who doesn't need anything from the outer world to entertain him, excite him and make him peaceful or happy.'

Liberation means understanding the purposelessness of life. It means understanding clearly that our lives cannot be measured by the money that we make. Life is something which is more than the money we make. It is not the 1000 dollars per month that we make. If we think that 1000 dollars is our life, we will live in hell for twenty eight days of the month and be in heaven only for the two days of salary. We will be selling twenty eight days of our lives each month for these two days.

A person who keeps money or other things as his goal will be happy and blissful only for those few moments when he achieves his goal. When we understand that whatever goals we may have achieved, nothing in life has a purpose and life itself has no separate purpose, we will start living from moment to moment. We will respect every moment. We will start respecting life itself. We will start living in the present.

When we drop the goal from our mind, our very work will become beautiful and joyful. We will not be running for something. The very running will be beautiful.

If we are thinking of a goal while running, we will never see the beautiful garden that is around us. If we are just running for the sake of pleasure, we will enjoy the garden and we will reach the goal. Both will happen.

Infuse a little bit of peace and bliss in your life and you will understand the purposelessness of life. If you think life has a purpose, you will never understand the meaning of life.

The moment you understand that life has no purpose, that moment you will be liberated. That moment you will understand the meaning of life - living in this moment.

Krishna says:
‘Karmanye vaadhikaaraste maa phaleshu
kadaachana’

You have a right only to work, but never to its outcome. It means, do not live a goal-oriented life and do not think life has a purpose.

The Wave in the Ocean

Understand that our whole life is just a small wave in the ocean of the cosmic energy. In this vast cosmic energy, in this cosmos, in this Brahmaanda, in the universal energy, we are just a small wave.

Suddenly the wave thinks, ‘Oh, I should protect myself,’ and starts asking the neighboring waves, ‘Please be my wife,’ ‘Please be my husband’ or ‘Please be my son.’ It starts asking these waves, ‘Let us all protect ourselves, let us all live together and let us all live a happy life.’ Then the wave collects a few grains of sand from the beach and says, ‘This is my treasure.’

The wave starts thinking this is the purpose of life. With the neighboring waves

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supporting it, it thinks it is protected. It locks two or three sand grains and two or three pebbles with another wave and says, 'See, I am lending all this money to you. You have to give it back when I ask.' And the wave thinks it is completely secure and protected. But it doesn't understand that the next moment it is going to disappear into the same ocean!

We are all like the waves. It is all just a few minutes of drama. The next moment we are going to disappear into the same ocean!

Just like how the wave thinks it is separate from the ocean and wants to protect itself and starts collecting a few pebbles from the beach and thinks it is rich or it is secure with life insurance, we also do the same thing.

Life insurance is another big drama. You cannot use the word 'life insurance' at all. It should actually be 'death insurance'! See, after you die, your family, friends or relatives get that money which they have been waiting for. So you cannot call it life insurance; you can only call it death insurance.

So be very clear, just like how the wave thinks that it is secure by collecting a few pebbles, in the same way we also think that we are safe by having a few diamonds in our safe deposit box.

Those pebbles and our diamonds are one and the same. Diamonds have market value because people want to possess these rare stones. It is only because of the foolish desires of the few people who want to possess this stone that the market value exists. Otherwise, an ordinary stone and a diamond are one and the same. That stone and this stone are one and the same. A diamond has market value because people are competing to possess it.

No stone can protect us. Just as the wave thinks that by collecting a few pebbles it is protected, its life is insured, it is secure, we also think that possessing few things is what makes us secure. Life is pure purposelessness. Even though it is slightly difficult to understand this truth because of our social conditioning, the moment we understand it, we will be liberated.

A person who understands that life has no purpose will start working ten times more intensely than others. Do not think you will become lazy when you realize that life is without purpose.

Liberation Naturally Leads to Creativity

People always ask me, 'Master, you say life is purposeless. When we start thinking about this, we don't want to work, what should we do now?' Understand this: because we have created too many negative thoughts about our work, because we are conditioned to think of work as punishment or hell, the work creates stress. Because we are again and again conditioned with these ideas, the moment we understand that life is purposeless, we want to escape from work. It is only because of our conditioning, not because of our understanding.

Now if we really understand that life has no purpose, the stress and peer pressure to achieve success will be removed from us. The moment the peer pressure is removed from our being, we will be liberated. And I tell you, a liberated person will be much more creative!

A liberated person will be energetic. A liberated person, by his own understanding, will start actually working.

Understanding life's purposelessness will not lead us to laziness. If it is leading us to laziness, be very clear, we have a negative attitude towards our work. We have already built up a negative attitude towards our work. That is the reason we try to escape the moment we obtain this understanding.

But if we sincerely understand the beauty of purposelessness, if we understand that life is without purpose, we will be continuously

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working without stress, without the pressure of the goal, without constantly thinking about the goal.

See, two kinds of societies have been created. One kind believes that man can be made to work only if he is run by fear and greed. He can be enslaved only if he is constantly taught that he is not enough. The other group believes that man will express his energy totally if he is already fulfilled.

The eastern rishis believe that man will express his energy to the maximum if he believes that he is already full. That is the first truth you are taught in Eastern mysticism by the mystics

  • you are full.

When the Whole is removed from the Whole, the Whole remains as the Whole.

Running Driven by Fear and Greed

In the Eastern mystical tradition, you are asked to express yourself just out of your fullness. You are not made to run based on fear and greed. Some other social systems believe that man will work only out of fear and greed. This is why you are taught in your colleges and universities that you are not full, that life has some utility.

Understand that life has no utility. If you believe that life has some utility value, you will constantly be hypnotized into thinking that you are not enough unto yourself. Constantly you are taught that you are not enough. But with the eastern rishis, you are constantly taught that you are enough unto yourself. With this very idea, you can enjoy life. Life is to be lived joyfully with a fullness, not with a feeling of inadequacy.

If we understand that we are full and express our fullness, we will also become compassionate. We will attract more and more joyful things and experiences in our life. If we believe strongly that we are not enough unto ourselves and start running based on fear and greed, we will only create and attract incidents and people of the same nature. By our very nature, we will reproduce what we believe.

If anything has to survive, it should reproduce itself. If we believe our life has to be driven by fear and greed, we will reproduce that same thing in everybody. We will reproduce that same fear and greed in everyone in our life.

Children are told, 'Do this and I will give you candy. If you don't do this I will punish you.' If a small child is managed based on fear and greed, it is acceptable. But, after we are 80, if we still need to be handled with fear and greed, it means we are mentally retarded! Clearly, we have not grown! A child can be handled with fear and greed, but WE don't need fear and greed. When you ask the question, 'What is the benefit of this action?' you are actually asking based on fear and greed.

If you compare the crime rate, incidents of depression, etc. between the societies which are based on the attitude 'enough' and the societies which are based on the attitudes of 'more and more' or 'what next, what next', you will see a big difference and will understand what fear and greed can do to you.

In the Indian society, the civilization is the outcome of 10,000 years of research and development, by at least one billion inner scientists who were working with human consciousness in at least one million inner science laboratories. When I say inner science laboratories, I mean all the temples and ashrams. In India, there are one million temples and ashrams where congregation happens every day. People gather daily in at least one million inner science laboratories - temples and ashrams. The societal systems that are developed based upon the modern science and intellect, which are hardly five hundred years old, are based on the idea that we know everything and we can solve

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everything. People have started questioning that kind of civilization because it does not have answers for their basic problems.

The problem with the intellect is that it continuously divides. Whereas the quality of emotion is that it always unites. The society that is based on the idea that we know everything or we can solve everything holds the theory that our intellect is the ultimate. These societies have started facing terrible failures.

Constantly running after something puts tremendous pressure on a person. If we understand that life is purposeless, we will realize the futility of constantly running after some goal. The pressure of running after the goal and the stress that comes out of it will simply drop.

Because of running behind goals, we have a split personality. One half of our being is thinking about the goal, the other half of our being is thinking about the path. The moment we understand that the goal is useless, we will be integrated and we will be on the path. The very path, the very life becomes liberation.

Working out of liberation is what I call working as an enlightened being, an enlightened CEO! If you are working out of liberated consciousness, you live in leader consciousness. You achieve the state of the leader.

The status of the leader is different from state of the leader. The status of the leader relates to our society, our position, our bank balances, etc. The state of the leader relates to our understanding of life. If we have this deep understanding, we will achieve the state of the leader, the ‘leader consciousness’. Man will be liberated only if he lives in leader consciousness.

‘Should I Renounce?’

Janaka asks: How to achieve liberation?

How is renunciation possible? Tell me this, Oh Lord.

Renunciation is a beautiful word. People always come and ask me, ‘Master, should I renounce everything to achieve enlightenment? Should I renounce everything to realize the Divine?’

I tell them, ‘No, just renounce what you don’t have, that is enough.’

You don’t have to renounce what you have, just renounce what you don’t have.

Fear, anxiety, unnecessary worries, unnecessary fantasies, excessive imagination

  • all these things are not really there in your real life. However, mentally you are living with all these things.

Ninety nine percent of your worries never come true. The one percent that does come true is always good for you.

Fear itself is nothing but negative fantasy. You are living with so many things that you do not really have. Just live with whatever you have and renounce what you do not have, that is enough. All these things exist only in the mind, not in reality. If you do not have Ms. Universe as your wife, but mentally, you have a greed for it, renounce it, that’s all! That is what I mean when I say, renounce what you don’t have. Then you can live peacefully with what you have!

Entering into Ashtavakra Gita

Now, let us give our prayers to Ashtavakra, the great enlightened master, to help us understand the technology created by him, the formula created by him, so we may achieve the same state of Ashtavakra, the same state of enlightenment.

Please close your eyes and pray to that ultimate energy that gave this science to all

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of us through Ashtavakra. Pray to Him intensely. Let Him give us a deep understanding about this science, let Him help us understand this science, let this become our experience and let this become part of our being. Let us digest the teachings and the technology of Ashtavakra.

Ashtavakra starts the beautiful answer:

If you aspire for liberation my child,
shun the objects of the senses as poison
and seek forgiveness, sincerity, kindness,
contentment, and truth as nectar.

You are neither earth, nor water, nor
fire, nor air, nor ether.
In order to attain liberation realize
yourself as the knower of all these and
consciousness itself.

These two slokas (verses), sutras (techniques) are beautiful. In the first sutra, he speaks about a few things, a few qualities - the basic qualities like shunning the objects of the senses, seeking forgiveness, being sincere, being kind, being content and living with the truth. In the second sutra, he expresses the technology. He says that you are neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor air or ether. In order to attain liberation, realize yourself as the knower of all these and consciousness itself. It is a beautiful verse.

In the first part he gives a few disciplines, a few moral lessons. In the second part he gives the technology to achieve the state. This is the way they presented in those days. First, a little bit of discipline, then enlightenment! But I tell you, for modern men, unless the experience itself happens, we can't even ask him to be disciplined. If you tell him, 'Please shun the objects of the senses,' he will ask, 'What for? Why? What is the need? We are very happy. Why should we do all these things?'

Unless we can give one the direct experience, we cannot tell modern man anything. We cannot give him all this advice. Advice is one thing that everybody gives and nobody takes! With modern man we cannot say, 'First enter into all this, then you can experience.’ This is the reason why our spirituality is outdated. In the modern day, we will have to put the second sutra first and the first sutra second.

Only after our experience, extraordinary discipline will follow in our lives. We cannot force discipline on anyone. We can only work towards the alchemy, the transformation of our being. We can only work towards enlightenment. Once that experience starts happening, automatically the morality will happen to us; the discipline will happen in us.

So I am explaining the second sutra first. Let us enter into the second sutra first. Then the first sutra will simply start happening in our lives.

Life is not a chain. Every moment is independent.

We are neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor air or ether.

In order to attain liberation, realize yourself as the knower of all these and consciousness itself.

A broken chain link

You think about your life either in a positive way or in a negative way. You think of your life as a chain of beautiful incidents or you think of your life as a chain of many sufferings. Usually you think it is only a chain of suffering. Whether you think of it as a chain of suffering, or as a chain of beautiful incidents, both are just expressing your ignorance.

Be very clear, your life is not an
interconnected chain as you think it is.
Every moment is individual; every moment
is a separate, independent moment.

We are just ‘un-clutched’ beings. Because you are usually clutched, you think it is a single

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chain. Because you never un-clutched, you think that you are an interconnected chain. Be very clear, any moment you can just un-clutch yourself. Any moment you can liberate yourself.

Here Ashtavakra says: We are neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor air, nor ether.

Whether he is actually requesting you to believe this statement or not, I do not know; but I am not requesting you to believe this. Let me be very clear, I am not asking you to believe that you are neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor air, nor ether. I am just stating the fact that you are neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor air, nor ether. I am just expressing the truth. If you are intelligent enough, it will resonate in your being and you will feel connected to what I am saying. You will feel the truth of my words deeply. If it happens in you, come tomorrow. Otherwise, relax.

All these truths cannot be imbibed by simply believing. I only request that you just be completely present here and try to listen to whatever is being stated and try it in your life. If you are a seeker or if you are going to be helped by these scriptures or by me, these words will simply start creating a new healing effect inside your being. You will experience a deep inner healing.

A feeling of connection will happen. You will start feeling that you are connected deeply with the Truth. If that feeling happens, be very clear, you are ready for the experience. You are ready to experience. We cannot prove or analyze all these statements with logic. These statements are not intended to be proved logically.

Significance of Ashtavakra

Gita in Vivekananda's life

A beautiful incident occurred:

Vivekananda asks Ramakrishna,
'Master, why don't you prove God
logically?'

Ramakrishna laughs and replies, 'If I
prove God logically, logic will become
God. Logic will be raised to a level
higher than God Himself. God is at a
higher level. God is great because He
can't even be proved by logic.'

Ramakrishna then gives the same
Ashtavakra book to Vivekananda and
asks him to read it. But Vivekananda
was completely confused and depressed
at that time. He says, 'Why should I
read all these things? I don't want to.'

But Ramakrishna says, 'I am not asking you to read it for yourself. Please read it for my sake. I am old, I can't read. You are young, your eyes are fresh. Just read it for my sake so that I can listen. Just read a few lines.'

And the story says that Vivekananda was able to read only a few sutras. The very sutra started shaking him. He started shivering. He started trembling and tears started flowing. He just dropped the book and started begging Ramakrishna, 'I don't know why but I can't read this book anymore. My whole being is shaken.'

No Need to Believe - Just Listen!

Be very clear, if you listen intensely, your whole being will be shaken. If you are shaken, this book is for you, I am for you. If it doesn't happen, do not worry. There are so many other beautiful programs. Use your time in a much better way.

When you work with the truth, you do not need to believe it. The very power of the truth will shake you.

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The very power of the truth will start working in you. You will not be able to forget the very power of the truth.

People ask me, ‘Master, how do we remember all your teachings and follow them in our lives?’

I tell them, ‘Never make that mistake. Never try to remember my teachings. If my teachings are the truth, you will not have to remember them. They will remember you! Just listen and understand. Whenever it is necessary they will automatically come up and make you act according to the truth.’

If you have to force yourself to think, remember and then practice, then it is not truth. Truth needs no belief.

Here Ashtavakra is declaring: You are neither earth, nor water, nor air, nor fire nor ether. In order to attain liberation, realize your self as the knower of all these and consciousness itself.

He says that you are neither body nor mind nor any of these five elements. Your body and mind are created out of these five elements. You are filled with earth, water, fire, air and ether –your thoughts are comprised of ether. You are filled with all these elements, but you are not these elements. You are beyond them all. Understand yourself as pure consciousness. Realize that you are the knower of these elements and that you are consciousness itself.

You are Not the Body; You are Not the Mind

You do not have to think that you are the body to be alive. Be very clear, you do not have to think you are the mind to think.

Someone approached Ramana Maharshi and said, ‘Bhagavan, six rupees (a few cents) is more than enough to live in Tiruvannamalai for one month.’ Ramana’s ashram is located here. In those days, the cost of living was very low.

Bhagavan replies, 'To live, even body and mind are not necessary. Why do you need six rupees?'

Understand, even our body and mind are not necessary to live. When we understand that we are beyond our body, our body becomes graceful. When we understand that we are beyond our mind, our mind becomes intelligent. We start radiating grace and intelligence when we understand that we are beyond body and mind.

There is a beautiful sutra in Ayurveda where healing and spirituality are explained beautifully. In India, everything, whether it is art, culture, painting, festival, medicines, clothes or anything else, is connected to spirituality. Spirituality is the backbone of India.

The Ayurvedic science says, we get stomach problems like constipation, etc. only if we are constantly holding on to our body. If we can just relax and witness, if we start understanding that we are not the body, we will never have stomach problems.

If anyone of you has a stomach problem try the following technique, it is very effective. In the last two and a half years, I have met more than a million people. One million people have tried the meditation techniques and technologies created by me and experienced the truth or bliss in their lives.

I tell you from my experience, if you have stomach problems, try the following technique for just two to three days. Constantly think that you are not the body. I assure you, you will be liberated from the stomach problem. Your stomach will simply be healed.

One more thing: I am not giving you false hopes or statements. After the experience of two and half years and after working with one million people, I am giving this statement. After thousands of case studies, I am making this statement. After long research I am telling

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you that if you have stomach problems including ulcer, constipation, irritation, any problem related to the stomach, this technique will help you. For two or three days, just continuously think, 'I am not the body,' 'I am not the body.' Just relax and allow the body to function. I tell you, within two or three days you will be healed.

The moment we start thinking that we are the body, we begin suffocating the body, we start forcing the body, we start abusing the body. We start disrespecting the body. When we think we are the body, we start disrespecting and abusing it.

You can see in your own lives that you destroy your body for the sake of your enjoyments. You will sit and watch a cricket game on television until midnight even when you are tired. Your eyes will be burning and begging you for a little rest. During the commercial breaks your eyes close automatically; but you tell yourself, 'No, this is not the time for me to sleep.' When the commercial ends, you start watching the television again. You are abusing your eyes for the sake of your pleasure.

We abuse and disrespect our body for our ego satisfaction. The moment that we start realizing that we are not the body, we allow the body to function as it is. We allow the body to function naturally.

By its very nature, the body heals itself. The body has its own intelligence.

Never think that our body is healthy because of us. It is healthy in spite of us. It is healthy not because of us, but in spite of us.

You are constantly abusing and torturing your body. The moment you start thinking, 'I am the body,' you start abusing the body. If you can relax from the idea that you are the body, you will start respecting the body. You will allow the body to live as it wants. You will allow the body intelligence to function. You will allow the body to live naturally. You will not interfere with your body. You will be alive, bubbling and overflowing with energy. You will radiate grace.

The moment you start understanding that you are not the mind, you will have sharp intelligence and spontaneity. You can see this in your own life. If two people are playing a game of chess and if you are watching the game, you will know better moves than the two players. If you are playing, those moves might not be so obvious to you. If you are just watching you will tell them, ‘Hey, why don’t you do this? Why don’t you do that?’ But if you yourself are playing, you will not be able to do that.

Just the pressure to win makes you dull. When you are witnessing, when you are away, you don’t have the pressure to win. When the pressure to win is not there you become so intelligent, so spontaneous and so alive. Your mind starts radiating intelligence.

When Ashtavakra says,

You are not the body, you are not the mind You are not the earth, you are not the water, You are not the fire, you are not the air, You are not the ether

He says that you are not the five elements. We always think we are the body and mind which is made out of the five elements.

First thing, understand that you are not this body and mind. When you understand that you are not this body and mind, you will start respecting the body and mind. You will start living with your body and mind blissfully. You will not abuse your body. You will not disrespect your body intelligence. You will let your body live naturally and blissfully.

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The Sutra to Freedom -

Detach from the Body and Rest in Intelligence

The next sutra: If you detach from the body and rest in intelligence, You will at once be happy, peaceful and free from bondage.

I think in these one or two sutras, Ashtavakra completely expresses whatever he wants to say. Usually, intelligence is required to explain things in a clear manner. To understand these Truths from just two or three statements also requires intelligence.

A small story:

A man from Texas goes to a European
country. There he meets a farmer. The
European farmer starts speaking about
his farming, agriculture, and all his
activities.

The Texan asks, ‘Where is your farm? Can you please show me?’

The European farmer says, ‘I have ten
acres in front of my house and twenty
acres to the side of my house.’

The European farmer was very proud
of his thirty-acre land. He asks the
Texan, ‘How many acres of land do
you own? How do you do agriculture?’

The Texan says, ‘How many acres? I
don’t know. Early in the morning, I
start travelling in my car and it goes
on and on and on. I can reach the other
side of the boundary only by evening.’

The European farmer immediately says, ‘Oh, is that so? A long time ago, I too had a car like that!’

Please understand, the Texan says that he has a large piece of land. But the European farmer thinks that he is talking about his car moving very slowly. You speak from one angle and the person understands from another angle.

You need intelligence to present something in just a few words. In the same way, you also need intelligence to understand something in a few words.

Bernard Shaw wrote a forty-page book and then made a statement, ‘I didn’t have enough time. If I had enough time, I would have used my intelligence and reduced the contents to twenty pages. Because I didn’t have enough time, I wrote a forty-page book.’

Be very clear, do not think if the book is voluminous, it contains intelligence. Many times a few sutras, one or two lines will give the whole clarity. It can transform your whole life.

In today’s discourse, I want to express one simple thing: the concept that there is something called enlightenment and that it is possible. There is something called living in the body and mind without being touched by the body and mind. If we can live inside the body and mind without being touched by the body and mind, we can live a liberated life.

If you understand the technology given to us by Ashtavakra, it is not only possible, it is also guaranteed. If you have the courage to enter into the technology of Ashtavakra, you can just have it. Today I say it is possible. Tomorrow, I will explain how it is guaranteed, and the day after tomorrow, you should just have it! There is nothing else that needs to be done.

Now all you need to understand is two simple things.

First, you are not the body and mind.

Second, if you detach from the body and rest in intelligence, you will at once be happy, peaceful and free from bondage.

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You will immediately become peaceful the very moment you understand that you are not the body or the mind. Tremendous peace will start happening in you. You will start understanding and accepting yourself as you are. In that very moment, you will start relaxing into yourself. In that very moment, you will become silent. That very moment will bring bliss in you.

The moment you understand that you are not the body and mind, you will relax from this whole samsara sagara, ocean of material existence. As long as you continue to associate yourself with the body and mind, you will experience all the sufferings and pains of the body and mind.

Ego is Not Necessary

Just understand this simple thing: in order for an animal such as a cow to breathe, it does not need ego, it does not need an identity and it does not need any character. But you are afraid that if you drop your identity you will not be able to use your body. You are afraid if you drop your identity, your body will not function smoothly. You have an idea about yourself, 'I am somebody's father', 'I am somebody's brother', 'I am somebody's son' and so on. This idea that you have, this identity that you carry, this ego that you carry, is not necessary for the smooth functioning of your body and mind. Of course it is very difficult to believe this.

A small story:

A person who was born blind went to
a doctor and asked the doctor, 'Please
do something and give me eyesight.'
The doctor said, 'I will perform a
surgery and you will be able to see.
Then you will be able to walk without
the help of the walking stick.'

The blind man said, 'Doctor, I understand you will perform a surgery. I understand that I will get my eyesight. But I am not able to understand how I can walk without my stick!'

We cannot convince the blind man that he can walk without the stick after the surgery. We cannot convince him intellectually because over time he has started associating his walking itself with the stick. Only after the surgery can he understand that he can walk without the stick. Once he gets his eyesight, he will throw away the stick and walk.

Similarly, you do not need your ego to live in the body and mind. Just like how the blind person could not understand that he would be able to walk without the stick after the surgery, you are not able to understand that you can also live in the body and mind without the ego. You can live inside your body, inside your mind without the ego. Just as the blind man who had gained his vision does not need the stick to walk, you do not need the ego to live.

The ego, the concept that you have about you, and the personality that you are carrying, are not necessary for you to live inside the body and mind.

You are afraid that if you drop that personality, people may cheat and exploit you. You fear that you may be taken for a ride and somebody may cheat you in your business. Somebody may take away all your property. You are concerned that if you feel that you are not the body, you will not maintain your house, you may give it away. Please be very clear, all these fears are created in you only by your ego.

Ego uses Fear to Exploit You

As long as you are afraid, you can be exploited by the ego.

Whoever wants to exploit you, the first thing they have to do is to create fear in you. If someone wants to exploit you, he will create the fear in you that if he is not there, you will not be able to manage things. You will start believing that if he is not there, your smooth activities will be disturbed, whether it is your company or your house or any other place.

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He creates the deep idea in you that he is an important part in your life and without him you cannot run. He creates the fear in you. Then, depending on the level and the intensity of fear, he starts exploiting you.

In the same way, the first thing the ego does is to try to clearly prove to your being that you cannot live in your body and mind without it. It creates the fear that you cannot live without personality. Once you are frightened, once you are afraid, once you start believing that you cannot live in your body and mind without the ego, it is very easy for your ego to exploit you, to cheat you. Be very clear, it is just simple fear, nothing but simple fear.

For the blind man, the walking stick was just an extra accessory which he will realize he does not need once he gets his eyesight. In the same way, you carry your identity as an accessory because of the association with the ego.

Ahankara and Mamakara - Outer world identity and Inner world identity

We all have two identities, the identity that we project to the outer world, and the identity that we believe to be us in the inner world.

The identity which you believe to be you inside your mind is called mamakar in Sanskrit. It will always be much smaller than what you really are.

You will be carrying or remembering all your failures, past mistakes and guilt and constantly trying to work on them.

The identity which you project to the outer world is called ahankar.

Ahankar is your visiting card. You print everything that you want others to know about yourself. This is based on the identity you show to the outer world. It will always be more than what you have, what you are. It will always be much more than what you are because you think you have to sell yourself. It becomes a basic need especially in the societies where you have to market yourself.

Ahankar will be based on a superiority complex. Mamakar will be based on an inferiority complex. Ahankar will be based on fear, mamakar will be based on greed.

At this point, you don't trust that you can run your life without fear or greed, without the identity that you are carrying. The identity that you show to the outer world will always be based on fear. This is why it will be always more than what is. You will constantly be trying to keep it alive.

The identity that you carry in the inner world is based on greed. This is why you are always trying to develop the identity that you are carrying inside you. You will constantly be working on the identity that you believe is you and you will continue to try to chisel it.

You remember your past mistakes in your mind so that you will not repeat them. You want to update yourself; as such, you will remember only those things. You will not remember your big achievements; only others will remember your achievements. You mostly remember only your mistakes and failures.

When you measure yourself in the inner world, inside your mind, you measure yourself based upon the weakest link of the chain. When you project to the outer world, you project yourself based on the strongest link of the chain.

Your life is nothing but the fight between these two worlds.

The conflict between ahankar and mamakar, the conflict between the personality that you show to the outer world and the personality that you reveal in your inner world is called 'tension'.

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The uneasy feeling between these two identities creates dis-easeness. The dis-easeness between these two identities is the disease. Understand this basic thing.

Both the identities ahankar and mamakar are pure myths; both are lies. You are something beyond these two identities.

You constantly spend your life trying to protect these two identities. When they start growing, they start fighting with each other and start giving you trouble. It is like marrying two women at a time and having both of them living with you at the same time! These two identities are not only lies; they do not exist in you either. You are something far more than these two identities that you are carrying around in your life.

If you are spending your whole energy expanding ahankar, the identity that you project to the outer world, your life becomes materialistic. If you are spending your whole life chiseling and developing mamakar, the identity that you think is you, your whole life becomes moralistic and suppressing.

Working on ahankar leads to a materialistic life. People who work on mamakar are constantly working on their personality, constantly working on creating some identity to feel satisfied. Working in the outer world with ahankar and working in the inner world with mamakar, both lead to more and more suffering, difficulties or depression.

The basic truth is that you are much more than these two identities. When you un-clutch from these two identities, you will suddenly realize that you are beyond the two identities. At this point, these two can never bind you again.

Now, I will spend few minutes answering your questions, because I have expressed too many new concepts. Unless you question, you will not be able to digest what I have said.

One more thing. Usually you feel, 'If I ask questions, everyone will look at me and I may look like a fool.' Please understand, if you ask your question, you may look like a fool. However, if you do not ask, you will be a fool! It is better to look like a fool and have an answer than to be a fool without the answer.

One more thing, unless you analyze these concepts with questions and answers, you will not be able to internalize this truth. You will not be able to make this an experience in you.

Questions and Answers

Q: You were telling us about enlightenment. Can you explain the process of your enlightenment?

A: Nice question, but too early to ask. Do you want an honest answer or do you want a socially polite answer?

(Questioner says, 'Honest answer'.)

You will have to wait until the third day for an honest answer. If I were to speak about my enlightenment at this point, you would not be able to connect to it. You would not be able to accept it. You see, unless you have one glimpse of meditation or truth from me, you will not be able to trust my experience.

Unless you experience the technology that I have created, you will not be able to relate to it. If I start speaking about my enlightenment, you will either start believing it out of politeness or questioning it. Neither of these will be helpful to you at this point. Neither will arguing help nor will believing help. You may even just take it as one more story. Even that will not help you. It may look like one more fiction story or an interesting novel but that is not going to help you. Just have a little patience.

Over the next two days, you will have at least one glimpse of clarity, peace, rest or at least one moment of deep relaxation. Once that happens in you, you will be able to trust. You

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might then think, ‘Oh! If this can happen to me, it could have happened to him also.’ Unless you get that glimpse, you will not be able to trust that the other person has had the experience. So I request you to please wait. I will surely speak about my personal experience.

Unless you yourself get a glimpse, you will not be able to relate with what I am saying. Even if I were to tell you, it would just be one more story. It will not be an inspiration for you. I will keep it as a last weapon to inspire you! My enlightenment story should inspire you and make you work towards that experience. If I speak about my experience when you are truly ready to hear about it, it will be an inspiration for you to work towards that same state. It can be an inspiration to make you express or grow towards the same state. So please wait.

Q: This question is about the point that you mentioned about happiness. I was explaining to my son that I am happy as a result of my learnings from these discourses. He replied, ‘I am already happy. Why do you want me to do anything else?’

A: We relate ourselves with things that we think is happiness. If he is really happy already, let him be happy. Don’t bother; let him be happy.

Q: That is what I thought, but at the same time I could not explain to him what kind of happiness I am experiencing. I think for a person to proceed he must know what real happiness is.

A: You have to understand two things.

First, if someone feels that something is giving them happiness, let them be. Only life can teach them, you cannot teach them. All of you be very clear, you cannot teach anyone, only life can teach.

Second, unless they need help, you cannot help them. If you try to help without them seeking your help, it will be like the boy scout story. What happened to the boy scouts? You will be doing the same thing that they were doing. When they need your help let them come. Otherwise, only life can teach them. Your idea of happiness and unhappiness has come out of your experience. Please be honest and clear, did you listen to your father when you were young? No! You did not.

Q: Actually we did listen to our fathers. This generation is different.

A: To tell you honestly, I am not able to believe this statement. No son listens to his father. People forget that they did not listen to their fathers only after they become fathers and have a vested interest in that position. They remember only the incidents that they listened to their fathers because they have to train their sons. They do not remember the incidents where they said ‘no’ to their fathers.

I tell you one simple, basic thing. You feel that you are a man only when you say ‘no’ to your father. Until then you feel that you are a child. You start saying ‘no’ to your father just to prove that you are a man. It is the basic psychology. When you say ‘no’ you think that you are somebody. So please be very clear, whatever you say, your son is going to say ‘no’, because he wants to be somebody.

I read a beautiful passage in a book. One man says, ‘I found three ways to get things done.’ His friend asks, ‘What are the three ways?’

The man replies, ‘First, do it by yourself. Second, hire someone to do it. Third, tell your kids not to do it! That’s all, it will be done. Tell your kids not to do something and it will definitely be done.’

Whenever you say anything, your child is just waiting to say ‘no’ to it. Saying ‘no’ to you creates a deep courage and strength in him. It makes him feel that he is a man; now he is on his own. We need to understand that we also said ‘no’ to our elders. Later on in the old age because you started having the

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problem of selective amnesia or because you started remembering only the incidents in which you said ‘yes’, you forget thousands of incidents in which you said ‘no’ to your elders. Be very clear, your kids are doing the same thing that you did.

Only life can teach them. You can neither teach nor help your children unless they want help. If you force something on them, if you force rules and regulations on them, they may learn one thing, how to cheat you, that’s all. If you start forcing, they will listen to the same words without respect.

Let us face the reality; let us come to a practical situation. I am not ready to give any idealistic solution. Please understand: I don’t want to give any big theories. I can give some ideas, like ‘Take him to some temple,’ ‘Take him to some God,’ ‘Take him to some guru.’ But nothing will come out of it. I tell you, nothing will happen.

And especially these days, children have become so intelligent. See, the inner software is getting updated, which means intelligence is getting updated. Nothing can be done about it. When you were growing up, the emphasis was specialization; so elders were intelligent because they were experienced in specialization of some sort, like their family business for example. So the son depended on the father for that knowledge in order to continue the business. But these days, the emphasis is on updating knowledge; so the younger generation is more updated and intelligent than your generation!

Be very clear, in the past, lifestyle emphasized and valued specialization. Naturally elders were more intelligent. Today, it is more important to be able to access information and update your knowledge. Naturally youngsters will be intelligent. All you need is to drop your ego and respect youngsters. That is the only thing that can be done. Nothing else can be done because fortunately or unfortunately the whole social setup has turned from specialization to updating. So be ready to respect the next generation.

Q: When you were talking about the concept, you said we are not the body, we are not the mind, we are not the ego. But in the process, what are we? You also talked about dropping the ego and then about our functioning independent of the ego. But if the ‘I’ itself is not the element of the ego and even if we drop the ego and we say, ‘Now I am not the ego but I am functioning,’ is that also not an aspect of the ego itself? Then who am I? Am I just the thought? Am I the consciousness or what am I?

A: Beautiful questions. But I really suspect if you really need answers! Please understand, people who need answers will put only one question. A person who puts several questions continuously needs only experience. He cannot be given answers.

First, you assumed so many things and you say, ‘If I drop the ego and start saying that I am living without ego, is it not ego?’ The moment you drop the ego you will not say I am living without ego.

Somebody asked a Zen master, ‘Master, how will I come to know whether I am enlightened or not?’ The master says, ‘If you are enlightened, this very doubt will disappear. As long as you have the doubt whether you are enlightened or not, you are not enlightened.’

He says beautifully that the moment a person becomes enlightened, the doubt ‘Am I enlightened or not?’ will disappear. In the same way, the thought, ‘I am enlightened’ will also disappear. He will neither have the doubt whether he is enlightened or not nor will he have the ego that he is enlightened. Both will not be there.

So in the hypothetical question, ‘If I drop my ego and I start saying I am living without ego, is it not one more ego?’ the very hypothesis is wrong. If you drop your ego,

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you will not say you are living without ego – that is the first thing.

Next thing, you are asking, ‘If I am not body, mind or ego, then who am I?’

You need to ask that to yourself, not to me. I asked and I found the answer. I am asking you to ask yourself. I am not here to answer your questions. I am here to question your answers. You have so many answers to the question, ‘Who am I?’ You have the answer, ‘I am the body, I am the mind, I am the ego.’ So I am questioning all your answers. No, you are not body, you are not the mind, and you are not the ego.

I will leave you alone with your question. When I leave you alone with your question, your question will become a quest. And that quest will naturally make you experience the truth.

Please do not ask these questions to me. Ask these questions to yourself. I am not actually answering your question. I am questioning your answers. So this question, ‘Who am I?’ should not be asked to me; it should be asked to you.

Q: You explained everything very beautifully today. Are tomorrow and day after tomorrow’s classes really necessary?

A: That’s nice. I tell you one thing: if you have truly understood, you do not need the classes given over the next two days. If you have not understood, again you do not need the classes. If you feel that you are almost catching the essence of these concepts, and that you think you should listen a little more, then you need tomorrow’s and day after tomorrow’s classes.

So be very clear, if you have really understood, you don’t need the next two discourses. And I tell you, if you really understood, not just tomorrow or day after tomorrow, you cannot forget me at any time! You will simply start living with me. I am not talking about the physical level; I am talking about the conscious level. If you understood this one session, what I talked about in this one class, not only do you not need the later classes, you will start radiating these teachings in your whole life. So if you have understood clearly, you don't need anymore. And if you have not understood completely, again you don't need more. If you feel, 'I understood a few things; I think I need some more,' then you are welcome tomorrow.

Q: You have been talking about purposelessness; life must be purposeless. Having been born in this world, we have to grow, we have to have some commitments and when the time comes we have to end our lives also. Given this situation, there is a feeling that we have to cultivate that which is purposelessness. But then we have some commitments in life, we have some goals in our practical day-to-day lives. How are we to balance this? How do we understand this?

A: First thing, I am not asking you to cultivate the feeling of purposelessness, because it is the pure truth. You don't need to cultivate it; it is the simple truth. You should understand the purposelessness. The attitude of purposelessness need not be cultivated in you. It is a simple truth; all you need to do is understand it.

Whether you believe it or not, your life is not under your control, am I right? Whether you believe it or not, you will not know when the end will come, am I right? Are you sure you will reach your house safely today? I am not sure. I don't know about you, but I am not sure whether I will reach the ashram safely in this Bangalore traffic!

Whether you understand it or not, accept it or not, believe it or not - this is the truth. I am opening the truth, which is the ultimate truth. Let the truth take its own course. Why should you be so afraid? Why are you afraid to enter into the truth, to let the truth penetrate you? Let it work. Before entering into the truth itself you are afraid - 'I have a

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family to support, I have professional responsibilities, I have social commitments. If I enter into the truth, what will happen to my life?'

The small wave is afraid, what will happen to it if it drops into the ocean, what will happen to the pebbles which it collected. When the wave is rising, it tells the next wave, 'You are my wife, please stand here; you are my daughter, please stand there... I have a commitment towards all of you. I have to do this, I have to do that.' And suddenly the wave disappears. Not only that wave, but all the other waves also disappear into the ocean!

What I am saying is the truth. If you can enter into the truth with courage, you will be a much better husband, a much better father and a much better family person. But only after entering into it, each one of you will be able to understand. Now the question that you are asking is a hypothetical question just like how the blind person asks, 'I understand that I will get my eyesight; but how will I walk without my stick?' I tell you, if you understand the beauty of purposelessness without this fear, you will be able to fulfill your commitments more beautifully.