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ABOUT THE MISSION

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I: Your foundation is called Life Bliss Foundation, and you founded it in I think 2003, and just in a very short period, I think you have something like 1000 centers, active around the world.

Photograph of Sri Nithyananda Paramashivam

P: 1000 centers, and more than 100 ashrams.

I: And you are only 29? But your mission really is to do what? I mean you really have a big mission.

P: Maybe the divine grace is working. See, in the last four and a half years of mission, we have 1.2 million seekers initiated and 5000 healers initiated, and 500 teachers trained and initiated, teaching around the world. We have more than 35 different programs for enlightenment seekers. We have programs for the people who work in the line of intellectual field, for the people who are in the corporate field, for the people who want to work on de-addiction, for the people who want to work on their health... For the different purposes, we have designed different programs. Of course, everything ultimately leads to enlightenment, leads to that one science. We have a new yoga system, Nithya Yoga. And, we have designed so many different programs, and created so many teachers, and we have more than 1000 ashramites, living inside our ashrams, practicing and presenting these great truths to the world. We have 150 swamis who are full time dedicated to practice and do research and development in the science and offer it to the world. This whole mission has happened just because of the honesty and commitment to the truth that we stand for.

I: I know one thing very dear to your heart is offering programs to young people. Could you just tell us a little bit about your program.

P: We have three levels of programs. Between 0-7, below the age of seven, we have programs to help kids and teach how to live without getting conditioned by society and how to retain the joy. Just retaining the innocence itself is a beautiful thing. For further information, you can go to our website or contact the nearest center. There is next level program between 7 and 14 where we teach them the basic science of meditation and how to awaken their intelligence to internalize the social laws without making them as conditionings. See, if you understand about the society and the ways in which society works and civilization operates, you will know how to play with the mass, but how not to get conditioned by it. The coat is necessary to go to the office. When you come back from your profession or your office, you can just be with yourself. You can become completely relaxed from the conditionings.

I: Now, these kids, do they go away to a school or do they live with their parents?

P: We offer in two ways. One, the web based. The other one, the classroom based. And the third thing, we give them just weekend workshops. We have a next level program – after the age of 21, for one year, we give them complete free

food and stay in India and teach them about the basic science of enlightenment. This is completely offered free. Anybody from around the world can come and stay there for one year. One year we will give them free food, and stay, and all the educational materials freely they can learn the inner science, study the enlightenment science, and practice in that beautiful ambience.

We believe that knowledge is free because I myself was given this science freely. We have a spiritual university in India where we offer this program. Not only they can learn, but they can have the certificate to teach others. We request that person only one thing, have honest seeking and not just abuse the hospitality. If you have the honest seeking, interest to learn, you are welcome to come for the one year free program. We offer them the basic accommodations, food. We have a regular program and training mechanism where people can come and not only will they learn the intellectual things, they can even practice the basic sciences like ayurveda, yoga, meditation and the basic life solutions from the Vedic tradition. And they can learn how to create a better inner software for our whole life.

I: I love what you just said, increase the positive energies of each person, and by doing that we are really emanating more positive energies.

P: Clearing and creating the right inner software is a basic need. That is the reason we are offering all these programs freely to the public. See, it is time to save the planet earth by creating more and more people who are awakened, who are enlightened. Unless we create a critical mass of enlightened people, we can't think of saving the planet Earth, because so many calamities happening around the world, which are created by the unconscious human beings. Global

warming, HIV, religious terrorism, fanaticism and so many atomic weapons getting piled. We are facing today so many dangers that unless we create a peaceful, blissful, joyful, enlightened humanity, I don't think we will be able to preserve this beautiful planet Earth. So, we are all out to create the peaceful, joyful, blissful, conscious, enlightened humanity.

We request anybody who is interested, to come and check us out and if you are interested in learning more, come to India. If you are above 21 and stay there, we will be happy to share all of our wisdom. Study, internalize, and share with the people. I always tell people, knowledge is free, without copyright. I don't have copyright on any of my techniques or methods because in the East, in the Vedic tradition we believe that knowledge should be shared with anybody who is interested, who is sincere.

Paramahamsa Nithyananda

I: Yes, and I want all of you to know that if you go to Paramahamsa's website, if you love spiritual study, it's a Mecca... I mean I myself have downloaded so many articles.

P: We have something like 4700 hours of recorded discourse, 200 volumes published in 12 languages, 300 audio CDs released and 470 DVDs released. Over 200 YouTube clips are available on YouTube; you can see everything and experience, experiment, explore.

I: Something that I read in your material that

I never heard anybody say it quite like this, and I think maybe my audience would be interested in this too. You said, "Responsibility is a consciousness. The moment you feel responsible for what is happening around you, that moment the divine energy will rush into you." I love that.

P: We always think we should take up the job or the responsibilities based on how much energy we have. We think, 'I have this much energy, so I should take on this much responsibility in my life.' But the truth is, when you take more responsibility, you just expand. More energy starts expressing through you. It is not that you will take the responsibility according to the energy. You will have energy according to the responsibilities which you take up. The more responsibility you take up on your shoulders, the more energy expression starts happening through you. If you feel responsible to whatever is happening around you, you suddenly become a leader. You start transforming your life and other's lives. Responsibility is one of the ways to consciously grow.

Paramahamsa Nithyananda

Responsibility is one of the ways to consciously grow. Taking responsibility for others is the technique for enlightenment. That is what Gita calls Karma Yoga. When you really feel that you should do the karma, taking the responsibility for others, you will not even bother about results. Just out of your compassion, feeling rejuvenates itself constantly. Healer means, a person who helps the others to heal themselves more quickly in a conscious way. Now, you heal yourself but not consciously. If you are helped, taught how to heal yourself, that simple science, if you consciously start practicing that science, encouraging the self-healing system, you quickly come out of the diseases and the mental disorders. Healer is a person who helps the other person quicken the healing process which is already happening in you.

I: Let’s say when we try to use drugs or pharmaceutical kinds of things, that is not really dealing with the consciousness is it? What are you doing if you are just thinking “Oh, if I have this disease, I just take this drug.” You’re just at the level of the body right?

P: See, what I am saying is, there are different levels of diseases. Just physical level diseases can be helped by the regular

drugs, by the allopathy system, no doubt about it. I’m not saying that allopathy is completely false or anything, but there are some diseases, psychosomatic disorders which you need to handle from the conscious level. Just handling your body as a biomechanism is not enough. So, in those places, you need spiritual guidance, life solutions.

I: Swamiji, I want the audience to know that for those of you who want to educate yourself more on the chakras. I want to really understand the chakras more myself because this is really big in your system.

P: We have 5000 healers around the world. You can contact the nearest healing center or our website. Every day, 26,000 people come inside our healing centers to get healed and to meditate.

I: I know that you think of meditation as a medication.

P: Yes. It can be complementary. I’m not

Photograph of The Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism, Jagatguru Mahasannidhanam, HDH Nithyananda Paramashivam

contradicting at all any other system. Just a little alteration in the way in which you think about yourself can do miracles in your body and mind. Second thing, the energy centers when you are disturbed by a particular emotion, you can see immediately that your health is also disturbed. For example, traditionally we say that navel center is disturbed by worrying emotions, unnecessary anxiety.

If you have some shocking information or message from somebody, first thing your stomach will get upset. That's why you say, 'I can't stomach it', 'I can't digest it', 'I don't have the stomach to listen to all those things'. Every emotion is connected to one energy center. If you are disturbed by that emotion, you can feel the reaction in that energy center. And now, the Kirlean photography has proven the existence of energy centers. It is a science.

I: I've heard of Kirlean photography. I know you are a scientist. Is Kirlean photography real?

P: In many countries, Kirlean photography is used as an advanced diagnosis method for tuberculosis, cancers etc. With this, they are able to diagnose six months ahead of any other available diagnosis method as they can see the aura. Kirlean photography is now an accepted diagnosis method in many countries.

In many countries they are using this as a diagnosis method. So, I think surely, many doors can open if we start putting a little bit of our energy into the chakra science also because the future is going to be holistic. The future is holistic. There are so many millions of people around the world, who have already started exploring in this consciousness, in the energy medicine sciences, the alternative systems. We don't have to completely say some system is right or wrong. If we take help from all the systems, we will make better lifestyle, better consciousness. I always tell people, every system is a garden, go to all gardens and pluck the best flowers, and make a beautiful bouquet for yourself. Why should you miss other gardens just because you are visiting one garden! And the future is going to be in the hands of the people who accept every system with sympathy, love and with an open mind.

I: Can you give us some words of comfort in terms of, lets say here in America. Some of us who see what our politicians are doing and some of the decisions, and some of the suffering that is taking place in the world... How can we look at that and not be so stressful ourselves?

P: First thing, every major decision taken at the higher level is the expression of collective positivity or collective negativity, so before going out and blaming the others, or leaders, or politicians, or others, if we can put a little bit of energy towards ourselves and feel and start working to create more positive consciousness from our inner space, we will be doing something.

See, there are two ways: Just talking about things, or doing things. If you are interested in just talking about things, then blame politicians, leaders. Start blaming, criticizing everybody but this is not going to be directly useful. It will only be pulling down your energy also, that's all. That is one way of working.

The other way is being sincere about doing something. If you are interested in doing something, let us do what way we can to add more collective positive energy. Let us create more positivity from our side. Bring more love in your actions. Increase your frequency of consciousness. When more and more people start working on themselves, the collective positivity has to express itself through right politicians and right leaders. See, all leaders are channels of collective positivity or negativity created by the mass. They are also guided by the mass. So, there are two ways of looking at things: sitting and blaming things or working to create more positive energy.

I think a sincere person should start working towards creating more positive energy, than blaming, criticizing, getting upset or disturbed. If you are getting upset, disturbed, what is going to happen? Except that you will have a little more depression, a little more negativity, and only then you are adding more negativity, more mass to the negative consciousness. So, I feel, revolution is not the way, evolution is the way.

Every revolution promised the truth or the ultimate solution. In the last 3000 years of the history of the planet Earth, we had 5000 wars. 5000 recorded wars in the humanity. 5000 wars in 3000 years. It seems human beings were not doing anything but war, war, war. The reason is, we believed in revolution. Now it is time to believe in individual

evolution. You see, the mass revolution becomes again, one more system. Anybody who comes to the power, is again led by the mass negativity or mass positivity. It is now our responsibility to add more and more positivity. That is the only thing an individual can do.

Paramahamsa Nithyananda

I: Right. What we are getting more and more is understanding how we really do affect our surroundings like we are awakening to really how our being is.

P: Peace needs to be brought into the individual's heart, then it will radiate and transform the whole planet earth. Let us all be honest to our Being and bring peace to it. You will just radiate it like a flower. And, you will add to the collective positive consciousness. You will see that expresses simply through our leaders. Instead of getting upset or disturbed by the negative decisions, just create positive energy so that they also are affected by this positive consciousness.

I: Every day people are dying in ways that are painful. Now that this war is going on.... How do you deal with knowing that people are dying from suffering? How do you deal with that? Little babies, old people. How do you understand that?

P: How to get rid of suffering in the world? The only way is, at least let us work so that in the near future we can avoid these kinds of things. See, what is happening is the result of our past. At least, in the

present, let us create more and more positive consciousness and energy, so that we will avoid these things in the future. If we also get agitated, disturbed, then we will again start creating more violence and negativity to stop the violence. Violence cannot stop violence. Blood cannot wash blood.

Paramahamsa Nithyananda speaking in an interview

Buddha says beautifully, if we start
thinking with "eye for an eye" the whole
world will become blind. If we start

Portrait of The Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism, Jagatguru Mahasannidhanam, His Divine Holiness Bhagavan Nithyananda Paramashivam

working with the logic "eye for an eye", then from this group, that person will take one person's eye. Then from this group, this person will take another person's eye, then the whole world will become blind. The only thing we can do is start creating more and more positive, peaceful ambience inside your being and continuously work to create peace and love outside your field. That is the only possible solution.

Yes, in this moment with the power I have. I may be able to do a little service with whatever I have available to me, and I may be able to send peaceful prayers and thoughts and positivie energy. Whatever I have under the control of my body and mind, I am making it positive. Instead of getting just upset with somebody or with some system or blaming the things the way in which things are going....

I: So my state of being upset is being

transmitted out into the world, and I'm really exaggerated by the condition.

P: And getting agitated. See, getting agitated is not going to be productive in this situation. You understand? This war itself is created by the people who are agitated. If we are also agitated, how do you think we are going to solve the problem? We are only going to add more problem. So the only way is, do whatever you can without getting agitated.

Paramahamsa Nithyananda

I: Because, I mean, technically, if there is only the present moment and I am right here, the only the thing I know is right here, and I may not realize it by being here, I really am doing something to bring peace to the whole planet.

P: That is the only way by being here, you adding more and more joy or bliss or silence to the whole consciousness. By you getting agitated, already you have lost the game. Because the wars itself is created by the people who are agitated. If we are also agitated, how are we going to do something good, do something right to the planet Earth? That is not the way.

See, anybody who tried in the way of
revolution has made one more system,
one more tradition, one more power
game. It ended up in one more war. So,
the only way is the way of the Buddha.
The way of the peace, the way of the
silence, the way of Shiva.

Working with yourself, becoming a strong leader, doing things which need to be done, without getting agitated is the right way. We are doing as much as we can towards the peace and silence and bliss and helping the people who are stranded by the wars and trying to bring more and more peace into the consciousness of the leaders. We are supposed to become productive people, not agitated people.

I: Right, exactly, and for those of you locally who are listening to this talk, I understand that weekly you can go to some place, is it in Seattle, in Bellevue?

P: We have the Bellevue center.

I: You can go on Sundays and there is a meditation.

P: And you can learn more about the science which I am teaching.

I: Could you just give me one meditation technique that you could suggest that we can do?

P: Nithya Dhyaan. I call that as a technique for eternal bliss. Nithya Dhyaan, a simple technique. I can just give the steps also now. It’s a five step technique. The first step, just sit comfortably and deeply inhale and exhale. Because you have lost touch, you have got disconnected from your breathing. It has become shallow because you are lost in your past and future. Inhaling and exhaling deeply will bring you inside your boundary, to the present moment. That is the first step. Of course, this meditation is described in a detailed way in our website lifebliss.org. You can download from that and practice and explore. Now also I am giving you the method. First step, the inhale and exhale intensely, deeply. Second step, intense humming so that your inner chattering will be silenced. Your inner chattering will become silenced because the catharsis will happen. The third step: relaxing and putting your awareness in every energy center. And the fourth step: Just be unclutched, means do not create chain or link of thoughts. Do not create a shaft of thoughts. Whenever thoughts arise in you, just be a witness. Sit in a relaxed way. Any word or letter or thought that rises in you, do not create, maintain or destroy it. Just witness. The fifth step, sit in a relaxed way, in a deep, prayerful way. Surrender to the whole cosmic energy. Be receptive to the whole cosmic love, energy and compassion. These five steps, in a detailed way, are described in our website lifebliss.org, Nithya Dhyaan. Download, and practice. This one technique is enough. This is the essence of my teachings.

I: That’s so great. Thank you so much. Well we are at the end of this hour. It was really a blessing to be with you. I think all of you can appreciate what it was like for me to look into his eyes. I’ve been in bliss just being able to be with you. Thank you so much.

P: Thank you. So I welcome you all, let you all achieve and radiate the eternal bliss. Nithyananda. Thank you.

Sri Nithyananda Paramashivam